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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Hrmm… our minds are very far away from each other today.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @fronxer

      I am having trouble understanding your position. I think I'd need it explained to me in very clear terms with examples.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer

      I see a need for focus on distinct experiences of groups but not at the cost of its members relating to wider society or being individuals.

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    4. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      “need for focus on distinct experiences of groups” — I agree. “…its members relating to wider society” — Who ignores that, how?

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @fronxer

      Eg when Crenshaw discourages saying 'I am a person who happens to be black' & saying instead 'I am black'.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer

      When people in minority groups are expected to only focus on the art, culture, issues etc of that group. Shakespeare must be rejected etc

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer

      When people are called coconuts or coons or native informants for holding humanist or liberal values as if they can't belong to them too.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer

      As if whole world of ideas & art and potential relationships based on shared experiences rather than culturally specific ones are a betrayal

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    9. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Some people might see it as a betrayal. My view is that assimilation can make people blind of their own group-based oppression.

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    10. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @fronxer @HPluckrose

      E.g. women of color who have learned to explain their career failures in terms of not-misogyny and not-racism.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
      Replying to @fronxer

      Surely, what's important is whether it *is* misogyny and racism. Shouldn't be a political requirement to think it is or isn't.

      6:55 AM - 25 Jun 2017
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        2. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Agreed. But there is pressure from the dominant, universalist majority to disregard such explanations!

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @fronxer

          I think this is simplistic. I think a lot of the resistance to seeing racism & sexism etc comes from people seeing it everywhere.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer

          The terms are losing power because of overuse & misuse. If everything is sexism and racism, nothing is.

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        5. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          “If everything i X, X is meaningless”—Agreed. However, racism & sexism exist as social phenomena distinct from analyses of cases

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        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @fronxer

          Well, yes, but you can lose people's support if you aren't reasonable.

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        7. MJ fan account 1984‏ @fronxer 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          If I was going to be facetious, I would interpret “reasonable” as “acceptable within frames of reference of the majority”

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Jun 2017
          Replying to @fronxer

          Very Foudauldian. But yes, we could argue about what is and isn't reasonable.

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