Hey, would that then make you a toxic humanist?! (Been having my own struggle on this topic today, too, sigh...)
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Oh, now I see, I stepped into it replying to same guy! https://twitter.com/cabinloon/status/876850766283239427 … (Tho he didn't engage with me much thereafter; others did.)
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Replying to @cabinloon @HPluckrose
I'm on the fence abt it. I think there are some attitudes associated w manliness when taken 2 excess are toxic 2 their holders or others.
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Helen has convinced me 'toxic masculinity' is not a gd way 2 describe this phenomenon. But now I'm not sure what to call it.
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Didn't we use to call that macho? I always prefer to call out the behavioural issue. It's genderless.
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Hmm. Maybe that will work. Although 'macho' still sounds gendered to me.
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Yes, I don't think gendered is so much of a problem.Bitchiness is definitely gendered & is probably the worst problem associated with women
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Replying to @HPluckrose @IonaItalia and
I know it might seem a nit-picky point but calling nastiness masculinity or femininity rather than a trait with a connotations of gender...
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I agree. An implied association isn't as bad as a direct reference. Maybe semantics. But it feels different to me.
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Me too & this is the main complaint people make & I can empathise coz I'd be indignant at bitchiness called toxic femininity.
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As tho its something nasty lurking in the essence of me which actually isn't part of me at all. A bit like original sin.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1 and
This may not be reasonable & these gender differences exist but enough ppl have felt this that I think its worth avoiding it.
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