And you get the difference between, say, needing to lose 20 lbs and being at 10 - and GENERATIONAL racial discrimination, yes?
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
I see the difference between two totally different things, yes. How do you see the psychology of goals differently?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Are u asking me if there's a difference between setting a goal to lose 20 lbs over the summer, & hoping for a better life for ur grandkids?
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
Obviously not. But I don't know how to ask you any more clearly than I have whether having goals & measuring progress can be inspirational.
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I think you feel that if people were to feel inspired by how much progress had been made, they might stop feeling angry abt the injustice?
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That being in any way positive about the direction of anti-racism activism is to deny the incredibly negative impact of racial oppression?
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Perhaps that people have no right celebrating anything or feeling encouraged or that progress is being made? It would be a betrayal?
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
It's insulting (to me) to pat yourself on the back for it being a '6/10', when it should be a '1/10', save for a lack of effort.
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
Everything must be negative all the time. No-one must ever feel good about how far they've come & inspired to continue in that way.
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This is a roadblock I've also hit a lot in these types of discussions. A refusal to stop and take stock of where we're at and where we were
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Yes, in this case, it seems to be driven by an idea that to be positive in any way is to fail to appreciate the awfulness of oppression.
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Another problem is demanding a utopian solution NOW in the face of human frailty. We can/must do better but take stock of where we're at
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