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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @johnpike15

      I think that was @GodDoesnt's point. 2)That's what we're discussing. Where we think we are. 3)How do you measure this condition?

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      The problem with the comparison is it presupposes things aren't 'bad' now because they used to be 'worse', which is an insult to the /1

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      This seems to be a projection & not a very reasonable one. Measuring progress tells us how far we have to go too.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      As a general rule, we don't avoid measuring progress for fear it will discourage us. Its often inspiring.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      My fitbit seems to think so, anyway. I think it was a mistake when feminism stopped celebrating advances.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      It motivated & inspired us to keep going. Made us feel our efforts were worthwhile. That we were making a difference

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      The whole concept of progress was central to liberalism then but derided & suspicious now. I think that's a shame.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      You don't think its insulting, Helen, to tell black ppl complaining about racial discrimination - 'well, it used to be a lot worse?"

      5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      But do you personally feel this way? When you see how bad things used to be, doesn't it inspire you to the cause?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      bloodshed, largely because white America didn't and still doesn't want to acknowledge the depth and severity of the problem. /2

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

      Would measuring and showing facts about the depth and severity of the problem help? Or do we just go with conflicting feelings about it?

      3:30 PM - 20 Jun 2017
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        2. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

          Helen, stop. Stop trying to have this argument you think you're having. Statistically data is relevant. Applauding 'progress' is useless.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

          OK, I'll go away now. I don't think so personally. I think celebrating progress is very positive.

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        4. Sceptical Canuck‏ @Surrey_Atheist 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt

          As do I.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @Surrey_Atheist @GodDoesnt

          White woman, gay white man? Obviously it will be our privilege that makes us think positivity virtuous rather than apocalyptic despair

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Surrey_Atheist @GodDoesnt

          Did I say anything about 'privilege', Helen? And did I say 'despair' at all? i'm talking about realism. But keeping being clever.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @johnpike15 @Surrey_Atheist

          Did you notice how I didn't tag you, perhaps indicating that I'm not addressing you specifically?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. War Replaced With Free Everything‏ @johnpike15 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @Surrey_Atheist

          You were riffing off our conversation, Helen. Don't hide now, it's unbecoming.

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        9. Sceptical Canuck‏ @Surrey_Atheist 20 Jun 2017
          Replying to @johnpike15 @HPluckrose

          Your butthurt is showing.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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