The problem with the comparison is it presupposes things aren't 'bad' now because they used to be 'worse', which is an insult to the /1
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
This seems to be a projection & not a very reasonable one. Measuring progress tells us how far we have to go too.
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As a general rule, we don't avoid measuring progress for fear it will discourage us. Its often inspiring.
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My fitbit seems to think so, anyway. I think it was a mistake when feminism stopped celebrating advances.
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It motivated & inspired us to keep going. Made us feel our efforts were worthwhile. That we were making a difference
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The whole concept of progress was central to liberalism then but derided & suspicious now. I think that's a shame.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
You don't think its insulting, Helen, to tell black ppl complaining about racial discrimination - 'well, it used to be a lot worse?"
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
This is the pessimism & distrust of ppl I was talking about. The fear they'll use measurements to belittle.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Numbers matter. Facts matter. But they can also give incomplete, and inhumane take. As with this racial inequality discussion.
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
Course we don't always have to talk about facts & numbers but it helps to know eg, whether more or less black kids are getting to university
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Because if its more, you can then consider methods working but if its fewer, consider different methods.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Helen.. those are easily quantifiable numbers. U get difference between that and saying 'we used to be a 9/10, now we're a 6/10', right?
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Replying to @johnpike15 @GodDoesnt
Yes. This would be more of an estimate based on where you started and where you want to get to.
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