... of us sceptical of the claim in setting bar too high & pure for what would count as patriarchy. Interested in where it should be. 2/2
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
Any area in which men can access power women can't & rule women. Sexist discrimination can exist too but if not law, not patriarchy
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
So, there was a period when there were some discriminatory laws of that kind left over (most obviously, voting laws). Wd that count?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
Count in what way? As evidence we hadn't fully dismantled patriarchy? Yes.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Yes, exactly. And I think that's what a lot of feminists mean when they use the word - that such vestiges as there are, in different ...
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... societies, are symptoms of *patriarchy* as distinct from *a* patriarchy. Much breath is wasted, I think, failing 2 see this distinction.
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
They may or may not be being reasonable about this. Its very often liberal egalitarians they target not extreme social conservatives.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Oh, completely. I guess their hunch is that the Salem-style denunciations will have some effect on the latter, but not the former.
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But I do also think there are many who don't act in such bad faith, & wd genuinely like to find common ground with non-/anti-feminists.
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For a 49-year-old white bloke living in east London, I'm oddly encouraged by the ongoing
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Me too! As a 42 year old white woman living in East London!
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