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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      ... of us sceptical of the claim in setting bar too high & pure for what would count as patriarchy. Interested in where it should be. 2/2

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

      Any area in which men can access power women can't & rule women. Sexist discrimination can exist too but if not law, not patriarchy

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      So, there was a period when there were some discriminatory laws of that kind left over (most obviously, voting laws). Wd that count?

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

      Count in what way? As evidence we hadn't fully dismantled patriarchy? Yes.

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    5. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      Yes, exactly. And I think that's what a lot of feminists mean when they use the word - that such vestiges as there are, in different ...

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    6. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      ... societies, are symptoms of *patriarchy* as distinct from *a* patriarchy. Much breath is wasted, I think, failing 2 see this distinction.

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

      They may or may not be being reasonable about this. Its very often liberal egalitarians they target not extreme social conservatives.

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    8. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      Oh, completely. I guess their hunch is that the Salem-style denunciations will have some effect on the latter, but not the former.

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    9. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      But I do also think there are many who don't act in such bad faith, & wd genuinely like to find common ground with non-/anti-feminists.

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    10. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

      For a 49-year-old white bloke living in east London, I'm oddly encouraged by the ongoing @gogreen18 moment...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
      Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt @gogreen18

      Me too! As a 42 year old white woman living in East London!

      11:18 AM - 20 Jun 2017
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