Well, I guess if abortion rights are rolled back in the way about 30% of the country would like, I guess that would count?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
Not technically, no. This wld not be an example of a society in which men have all the power unless they did that first &then made that rule
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That wld be an example of a law which disadvantaged women but if brought about by men &women (& more pro-lifers are women) not patriarchy
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Ah, OK. So a "patriarchy" inaugurated by men and women working together (a la Handmaid's Tale) wouldn't count?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
Women can work to support patriarchal societies but not from a position of power within them or it isn't one.
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This isn't cut & dry. When Elizabeth I ruled, England still a patriarchy & rhetoric had to be spouted abt how she wasn't really a woman
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There can be some female figureheads but patriarchy can still exist 4 main part if the system still set up for men to be in charge of women
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eg In the 60s my mother cld vote but cldn't get mortgage or loan w/out male consent (guarantor) coz men still responsible for wives debts
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She didn't earn as much as men for same job coz explicitly assumed that man was breadwinner & women only worked for bit of extra cash.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Right, exactly. So does that, for you, count as an indication (even if vestigial) of patriarchy? Genuine question - I have an open mind.
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That was patriarchy. It was enshrined in law. Women literally couldn't earn the same coz men expected to pay for family upkeep.
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It was a big problem particularly for single women & lesbians obviously who even in pairs often couldn't afford to live.
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