No1s been able to give me example of patriarchy in the US w/out changing meaning to a)Men & women make different choices or b)assholes exist
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Well, I guess if abortion rights are rolled back in the way about 30% of the country would like, I guess that would count?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
Not technically, no. This wld not be an example of a society in which men have all the power unless they did that first &then made that rule
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
But is the word "all" there essential to the idea of patriarchy, as propounded by most feminists?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
The word means 'rule of the fathers' as I'm sure you know. Unless men have power to rule & women don't & men can rule women, no patriarchy
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
Sure. But wouldn't there be something short of "a" patriarchy, in the full sense you describe, ("patriarcish"... ?) worth worrying about?
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Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt
There could be and was until very recently. Here in UK, women got right to decline sex with husband in 1990.Last area of patriarchy, sort of
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Because men had no right to charge wives with rape if they forced sex on them either so legally equal but in real terms, not so much.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt
I suppose the discussion then becomes about vestiges of formal patriarchy in social norms, etc., & dreaded idea of "socialisation".
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