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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
    Replying to @ConceptualJames @GodDoesnt

    No1s been able to give me example of patriarchy in the US w/out changing meaning to a)Men & women make different choices or b)assholes exist

    9:18 AM - 20 Jun 2017
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      2. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Well, I guess if abortion rights are rolled back in the way about 30% of the country would like, I guess that would count?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        Not technically, no. This wld not be an example of a society in which men have all the power unless they did that first &then made that rule

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        That wld be an example of a law which disadvantaged women but if brought about by men &women (& more pro-lifers are women) not patriarchy

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Charles Peyton‏ @Friedmanzone 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Ah, OK. So a "patriarchy" inaugurated by men and women working together (a la Handmaid's Tale) wouldn't count?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        Women can work to support patriarchal societies but not from a position of power within them or it isn't one.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        This isn't cut & dry. When Elizabeth I ruled, England still a patriarchy & rhetoric had to be spouted abt how she wasn't really a woman

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        There can be some female figureheads but patriarchy can still exist 4 main part if the system still set up for men to be in charge of women

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Friedmanzone @GodDoesnt

        eg In the 60s my mother cld vote but cldn't get mortgage or loan w/out male consent (guarantor) coz men still responsible for wives debts

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @DJWESG @GodDoesnt

        Category B) An asshole exists. And was made president. By vote. Which women participated in & in which the other candidate was a woman.

        1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @DJWESG @GodDoesnt

        Patriarchy doesn't mean 'assholes exist.' It means a system of society in which men have all ruling power & women are denied access to it.

        5 replies 6 retweets 37 likes
      5. Angela‏ @Angelolz87 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @CathyYoung63 and

        Women aren't denied power under 'patriarchy'. Free yourself of this cancerous theory, there's women in power everywhere

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Angelolz87 @CathyYoung63 and

        They are denied ruling power or it isn't a patriarchy. I'm writing abt this now & academically focus on the kind of power women had under it

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
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      1. Steph  🇮🇸 🐍 🇯🇲‏ @Steveninn 20 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @GodDoesnt

        Often a thing that encompasses all actions explains nothing in a sense. Everything gets named as aspects of patriarchy - it will never end.

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