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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @LotakX @HPluckrose

      Language is not a branch of mathematics.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Ben‏ @BristolBen 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BaileyNagy @LotakX @HPluckrose

      Obviously. The question is whether language should be logical and how that might help with clarity.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @LotakX @HPluckrose

      It's the wrong question. English has developed such that we understand each other, so it does not need to be artificially improved.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

      Adrian! People can talk about what they like & don't like about a language & why!

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @LotakX

      I didn't say they can't, did I?

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

      Then just let them and stop telling them its a wrong question & they should be talking about something else. You go and do that.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @LotakX

      I think saying it's the wrong question is a fair argumentative point. Not sure why you're being the debate police.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

      Because if I raise an issue, I'd like to discuss that rather than have people tell me it's the wrong question. Just don't engage then.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @LotakX

      Getting close to saying that if I think that someone misunderstands an issue I shouldn't be able to say so.

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    10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

      Nowhere near that. They raised the issue abt logical structure. You told them they shouldn't look at it that way.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy and

      But only at the fact that language works functionally. They'd conceded that. Interesting to look at its workings on a logical level.

      5:45 AM - 19 Jun 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy and

          Particularly if you're a mathemetician. Not interesting for everyone but it's so easy to go & have a convo you're interested in.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy and

          Rather than tell other people to stop having the ones that interest them & look at it your way instead.

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        4. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @LotakX

          I think if people are determined to look at something unscientifically it is worth pointing it out. I'm not banning their opinions though.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

          That's not what happened. Ppl were trying to look at logical structure & you kept telling them only functionality matters.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy and

          That's akin to my looking at the form of a poem & someone insisting I should only look at the themes. That form is the wrong question.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy and

          Much better to accept that people are interested in different aspects of a thing at different times & its OK if its not 1 that interests you

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        2. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @LotakX

          Interesting maybe; they can fill their boots. But they seem to want to change the language based on their analysis.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BaileyNagy @BristolBen @LotakX

          No. They don't. The bit about fines and gulags was joking.

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        4. Ben‏ @BristolBen 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy @LotakX

          20 year mandatory sentencing 😈

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        5. Lotak‏ @LotakX 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BristolBen @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy

          I think punishment should be more tailored. Helen would have to study religion full time. You'd have to be lectured by Tories. Me - RadFems

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LotakX @BristolBen @BaileyNagy

          You realise that studying religion is what I do?

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        7. Lotak‏ @LotakX 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen @BaileyNagy

          Hmm ... Helen would have to be taught by extremely orthodox religious people. You're in their terms. Not yours. No room for arguing.

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        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LotakX @BristolBen @BaileyNagy

          Sadists

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