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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Jun 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Beat Confusion

      Not sure that's possible. People don't really work like that. Can take a personal approach that doesn't involve saying other terrible personhttps://twitter.com/BeatConfusion/status/875995522720563202 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      Beat Confusion @BeatConfusion
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      Could a ground rule for productive debate be something like, "before we go any further, can we agree to depersonalize this?"
      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    2. Beat Confusion‏ @BeatConfusion 17 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Is it not an extension of an implicit agreement to follow universal logical rules of the road; specifically to avoid a type of ad hominem?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Jun 2017
      Replying to @BeatConfusion

      Yes, but it won't help us if people don't work like that & their motivations are personal & emotional.Meeting them on a personal level helps

      1:52 AM - 17 Jun 2017
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        2. Beat Confusion‏ @BeatConfusion 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You are an impressively tolerant and sociable person to be willing to go to that place with folks you don't know.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BeatConfusion

          :) Not really. It's where I come from & what interests me. The way people think & their motivations for thinking it.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @BeatConfusion

          Understanding this in individuals gives us a way to present the good arguments in a way that will resonate with them. A la Jonathan Haidt.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Beat Confusion‏ @BeatConfusion 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Understanding pre-existing intellectual commitments and concerns/interests is productive in that sense.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Beat Confusion‏ @BeatConfusion 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BeatConfusion @HPluckrose

          But do you share my concern when the references are to elements of ascriptive identity? "As a privileged white male, you would say that."

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @BeatConfusion

          Absolutely.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Beat Confusion‏ @BeatConfusion 17 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Damn. We're in violent agreement, again. Just when it looked like a good debate was getting off the ground.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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