Do you think animals raised for food in Europe/the UK are treated well? In the US, their lives are far from ideal or idyllic.
OK, so this is an argument for liberating us from responsibility, not for reducing animal suffering & death. I'm more concerned abt latter.
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If pigs could have a council & demand their freedom & say they'd rather die free than live as prisoners on farms, I'd say they should do so.
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But as they can't, I'm more concerned about the suffering of animals we made dependant on us.
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I am too. So there are two issues: (1) what to do with living dependent animals and (2) the die free/die well/never live trilemma.
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And I think we've reached an impasse coz I'd go with die well & you with never live.
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It seems I am motivated by 'most pleasure/least suffering' and you by the rights of animals not to be exploited by humans. Both valid.
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Perhaps. Of the 3, I'd say live & die free in the wild. I do think some animals have rights, though I think of myself as a consequentialist.
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Take the blood off our hands and put it on nature's. Suffering & death won't reduce but we will not be responsible for the latter.
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We'd return to the status quo ante, pre domestication. Pigs would be in the same situation as badgers. I like our arrangement w/ badgers.
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