@HPluckrose As a classical liberal, what are your thoughts on social democracy / the welfare & regulatory state? Are they compatible w/ CL?
I'm afraid I don't have well-developed ideas on the subject of economics. I'm much more about ideology & ethics.
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I ask because in the U.S. CL is nearly synonymous w/ libertarianism: an ideology/ethic grounded in Nozickian self-ownership... 1/2
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Yes, I know. I switched to 'universal liberal' for that reason. I don't agree with libertarians economically.
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Right. We need a term for those who believe in liberal values, human rights, the welfare state, and who oppose PoMo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I have been going with 'universal liberal' and explaining this a lot.
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Speaking of social policy, I recommend this article in
@curaffairs on the Grenfell Tower fire. Tragic & preventable.https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/06/the-politics-of-tragedies …
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Do you have any thoughts on the ideology of "carnism" and the ethics of animal slaughter?https://areomagazine.com/2017/06/15/the-case-for-ending-animal-slaughter-slouching-toward-palitana/ …
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I'd suggest that not eating them doesn't mean they're less likely to die but might well suffer more in life & in the process of dying.
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What if a UK company started raising and killing millions of dogs and sold their meat? If the dogs lived good lives, would that be OK?
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It would be the same with all animals, yes. I'd rather dogs got to live & have a good life than not live. I'd rather I did.
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But we don't apply that reasoning to humans. We don't excuse murder by acknowledging that the victim lived a joyful 35 years.
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It's the same w/ pets. We don't tolerate people who abuse or kill pets. We prosecute them. The line btw "pet" & "farm animal" is arbitrary.
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I quite agree. I'm just not sure what to do about it. The option 'care for all animals as humans' isn't doable. Children are in poverty.
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We can & must insist that farm animals are not abused tho. Stronger penalties for those who do.
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In areas of gender, religion, liberal values. In principle, I support a strong safety net & universal healthcare.
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2/2 In the U.S., CL/libertarianism opposes a strong safety net & universal healthcare, so it worries me that CL is a popular term as of late
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