Motte and Bailey is just a sophisticated strawman fallacy. I teach my 101 students that one, it's so easy. Come at me bro. 


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I don't think it was taken from you. I think in demonizing it various groups have abandoned it and with it the debate.
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Well, we didn't criticise it before it went nuts. I've not abandoned the debate tho. Just have to do it outside to get published anywhere.
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I guess I haven't seen it as going nuts. Even were I to concede it has, I think my view of what should come next is different from the OPs.
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