But I don't think we'll agree so better leave it. We're just stating the same points increasingly vehemently.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen
I still think liberalism is defined best by people subordinating private beliefs to universal human rights.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I agree with you. The key word here is "private". If you air your views, then they are political statements (if you are a political leader)
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Replying to @BristolBen
How much harder do you think he could have tried not to do that? What more do you think he could have done?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I don't blame him. He got ambushed. However, having let people understand that he thinks gay sex is a sin, his position became untenable.
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Replying to @BristolBen
What more do you think he could have done to prevent that? You keep not answering that question.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Maybe nothing (lying is not commendable). In which case, he's just not the right person to lead the LibDems. Not his fault.
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Replying to @BristolBen
Because he doesn't believe the right things. Being liberal is not enough. A very illiberal attitude.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
You forget that "homosexuality is sin" is an illiberal statement!
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Replying to @BristolBen
Christianity is illiberal. Overriding it and defending LGBT rights is not.
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We're just repeating ourselves. If Libdem values are what you think they are, I am not one. I have no home at all.
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