I mean that he is the essence of liberal coz demonstrably willing to overrule his own beliefs for liberalism.
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Tim Farron can do and say whatever he likes! I will defend his rights! But we can decide whether he represents LibDem values or not.
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I mean *he* does that & that's why he's earned his liberalism stripes better than ppl who support things they already agree with
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I think he does represent Libdem values more because he does this. You think he represents them less.
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I understand why you say that. He is able and willing to ignore his illiberal religious beliefs. That's good.
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You forget that his beliefs *are* illiberal. Accepting them within LibDems gives ammo to homophobes, who can say:->
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"Even liberals agree with us. They just don't have the courage of their convictions. They are hypocrites" You make the case that this ->
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is not hypocrisy. I get it. I agree. But most people won't and gay people will suffer for it. I cannot accept that.
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I don't think that's supported. Rejecting Farron for wrong think despite his upholding liberal principles much more damaging
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There's no actual liberalism if we're only supporting things we think are right anyway. Everyone does that
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Shame if Libdems lose religious ppl who recognise the importance of liberalism & secularism tho it counters their beliefs
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