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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017

      Arghh! Yet another Christian arguing (correctly) that ppl have subjective views on morality but asserting (incorrectly) that hers isn't one.

      5 replies 2 retweets 26 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      'Humanists differ so it's all relative & subjective & worthless.' And Christians don't, of course. Just one denomination all in agreement.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It doesn't matter how much you really, really, really, really think your moral premise is the right one. It doesn't become objectively true.

      2 replies 4 retweets 11 likes
    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      People making this argument exempt themselves from having picked or conformed to one of many value systems. Everyone else has done that tho

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      'Look' they say 'All these different systems of belief & values. Humans picking different values. Not me tho. Mine is objectively true.'

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017

      "Don't you want to be objectively right like me by being Protestant/Catholic/Sunni/Shia/Jehovah's Witness/Mormon. Get rid of subjectivity!"

      3:38 PM - 13 Jun 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Have updated this. I still hold out a naive hope of getting ppl arguing like this to see that they're on the same ground as everyone else.pic.twitter.com/WohGgMnOL7

          3 replies 6 retweets 20 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You can't say 'I think my morality is objective coz I believe God dictated it. Therefore every other idea is subjective & inferior & I win'

          4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. FanofNUFC‏ @AustraliaToon1 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I've seen "Morality is objective coz science"

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jun 2017
          Replying to @AustraliaToon1

          Yeah. You still have to set a premise even if its just that human wellbeing matters. That is the most obvious one tho.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. FanofNUFC‏ @AustraliaToon1 14 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Yes, @Intrinsic29 argues this clearly. I might argue with the premise. That's for another time and day though.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 14 Jun 2017
          Replying to @AustraliaToon1 @Intrinsic29

          You think there's a better premise? I think it should include other animals too but find it hard to think of a better basis.

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        8. FanofNUFC‏ @AustraliaToon1 14 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I think it's fine as something to aspire to, it's simply some try to place an "ought" onto that, which I don't think exists.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Jorgen Burstrom‏ @jayphonic 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Thank you for not bringing us Jews into that conversation ;)

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @jayphonic

          You lot rarely do this tho it has been known. :-p

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        1. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          You've encountered a case of Naive realism. Very frustrating.

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        1. Gideon Moss‏ @egonotis 13 Jun 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Not sure what you mean by a moral code being objectively true. Isn't this why we refer to values not facts when discussing morality?

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