Possibly due criticism of Islam,Islamist extremists,draw pics of mo receive crys bigot/racism hence some feel need to reverse ie ban Islam?
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Sure but then your argument is 'Banning some speech is justified' not 'freedom of speech is essential.'
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Oh no I'm not in agreement just see the 'ban islam' and ask why they feel this way - what is missing is fair open debate & pos Islam reform
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Well, we know why they feel this way but it isn't compatible with defending free speech.
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I agree but how can this be changed for the positive - they can't be ignored as they tend to slide towards a far right leaning
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Of course not. This is a different conversation tho. I've written several essays about it.
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Doesn't one feed into the other - trying to establish rootcause of someone's views & reasoning? Interested to read your essay pls add a link
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Yes, they are connected, of course. But here I am only pointing out that those two claims are contradictory.
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Isn't the point that Islam is against freedom of speech? Kill apostates, kill the guy that draws the prophet and so on?
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That's a point. Not the one here which is whether we atheist critics of religion should support freedom of speech.
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I didn't read the full thread. I support freedom of speech and the right of religion assembly as long as I don't have to obey their rules.
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Exactly. So should we all.
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Saying banning a religion is incompatible with free speech doesn't imply that the religion supports free speech now, does it?
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Free to speak ones mind, not to force it on others. I am offended by Islam, I dont have the right hurt anyone. I have the right to say it.
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It doesn't. But it is at the heart of the problem when your enemies use your freedoms against you. (Free speech & association...)
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"Don't tolerate murderous intolerance"
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Limits are hard to establish but essential. Preventing Incitement to violence, yelling "Fire" in a crowded public place, mostly common sense
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