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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017

    Saying that atheists should have a vested interest in freedom of speech does not in any way indicate that I think we all have shared values.

    4:54 AM - 11 Jun 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's simply an observation that atheists are a minority & scepticism or criticism of religion have been & are chief among prohibited ideas

        4 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Michael‏ @Moz22 13 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        i think the criticism of religion gets old pretty quickly. the critics dont offer much beyond that and have no long lasting institutions

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Moz22

        They might have. It's just not related to one disbelief in one thing. I'm a liberal & a humanist & criticise religion on those grounds.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Moz22

        We must still be able to argue that it matters what is true & that evidence & reason are the best way to find out & that human rights matter

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Michael‏ @Moz22 13 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        i think we have to avoid all the justificationist theology which alot of so-called skeptics fall into.

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      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Jun 2017
        Replying to @Moz22

        I don't know what you're talking about,

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      2. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I haven't seen anything to indicate that all atheists have any shared values at all.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @solo1y

        No, and I shouldn't be suspected of saying they do just because I observe that its in their interests to support freedom of speech.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Of course not. Universal suffrage is in an atheist's best interest too. But that doesn't mean anything either.

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @solo1y

        I don't know how this relates. Atheists aren't particularly vulnerable here.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @solo1y

        Its simply true that justifying violence or prosecution for expressing ideas that a majority dislikes can justify doing that to atheists.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @solo1y

        I'm talking about this problem of thinking.pic.twitter.com/0IKF64805d

        1 reply 10 retweets 12 likes
      8. Barry Purcell‏ @solo1y 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If you don't support free speech for people you hate, you don't support free speech at all.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @solo1y

        Well, they don't. They're quite open about not supporting it. They just don't seem to think this cld be used to justify silencing them.

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      1. Douglas_Barnes‏ @Douglas_Barnes 11 Jun 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If people had no differing values, would freedom of speech even be necessary? Perhaps, but I'm not sure it would.

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