'Then who gets to decide what's ethical?' isn't a gotcha response to opposition to cultural relativity. It misses the point completely.
LGBT ppl have the same right to equality & freedom from violence & oppression wherever they happen to live.
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Contexts aren't universal. In one its OK to kill gay ppl & in another it isn't. That is a fact. Moral relativity is upholding it.
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I'm not saying the context determines morality. I'm saying that answers to what is right or wrong don't always translate from one to another
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You're saying different cultures think different things are wrong and right? Yes or no need to talk abt cultural relativity
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No, that's not what I'm talking about. Apparently I keep failing to explain myself.
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Yes, sorry, I don't understand. Can you give an example of when killing LGBTs wld be morally right by liberal principles?
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It would have to be in a society where LGBT people exist, are dominant, and are endangering the lives of non-LGBT people.
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But that would hold true in whatever culture that happened. The morality would be consistent.
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Not talking situational ethics - it's wrong to kill someone for their car but not to stop them killing you - but cultural values.
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LGBT people don't even exist in all societies. You can try and find a mapping, but that's a translation process, which doesn't always work.
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OK, they may not be called that but killing ppl for having sex with someone of same sex is wrong in every context.
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Right—so in order to make your moral point, you had to make it more abstract. That's not surprising and is an example of what I'm saying.
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Are we at cross purposes? I'm not saying all cultures have the same moral values. I'm saying we shouldn't validate them all.
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By cultural relativity, I mean saying things like 'Its wrong for a christian to discriminate against LGBTs but OK for a Muslim'
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Cultural relativity is when your own ethics shift depending on who is doing something, not noticing different cultural values exist
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Ok, *that* definition I can relate to more than the previous one.
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That's always what I meant. If I was unclear, that's why we're at cross purposes.
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