I'm a personalist, I reject there is something called "individual" which you can separate from your family or society.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
All scientific evidence points out that the liberal notion of free will is false. The conservative notion of a taming will is more accurate.
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Replying to @DeMondige
I don't think it divides that easily. Sam Harris' ideas on lack of free will don't make him any less liberal.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I think a free will (as in, you can make freely and not-coerced choices) is so fundamental to liberalism, denying that makes you un-liberal.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
Every presupposition of liberalism is founded on that concept of a free will: an individual has value because of its free will.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
Liberal deontological ethics are founded on treating every human as an end, because humans have a free will. I could go on and on.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
Free will is to a liberal what God is for a Christian, without it, everything falls apart. Liberalism is then as much flawed as theism.
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Replying to @DeMondige
But not what I'm talking abt. The liberals I share views with vary on free will. Most are indifferent.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Its much more helpful to talk about ethics & arguments than definitions
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Concepts, not just definitions. Concepts precede ethics and colour arguments. Ethics are superficial, concepts are metaphysics.
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Yes, discuss concepts. More important than if you use different words for them. Metaphysics? Oh god. OK, I really am out now.
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