So either liberals take a defensive stand (intolerance against intolerant, as Popper puts it) or they perish.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
But I'd rather keep my liberty & equal opportunity to without the cultural suicide. Hence, I'm a conservative.
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Replying to @DeMondige
You're a liberal from my perspective. Many conservatives are.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Even if I denounce liberal ideas like free will, voluntary association and individualism?
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Replying to @DeMondige
Maybe not. In ways that matter. I don't know if free will exists or a self. I believe in the right to individuality.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I'm a personalist, I reject there is something called "individual" which you can separate from your family or society.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
All scientific evidence points out that the liberal notion of free will is false. The conservative notion of a taming will is more accurate.
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Replying to @DeMondige
I don't think it divides that easily. Sam Harris' ideas on lack of free will don't make him any less liberal.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I think a free will (as in, you can make freely and not-coerced choices) is so fundamental to liberalism, denying that makes you un-liberal.
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Replying to @DeMondige @HPluckrose
Every presupposition of liberalism is founded on that concept of a free will: an individual has value because of its free will.
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OK, we've established we're using the word differently. Call me what you want as long as you recognise my ethics.
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