I know they don't. But they cannot say that liberty is forced on them when their right to deny themselves any rights or freedoms remains.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
It's not about just themselves. Not all are as focused on the individual as us. Conservatives focus more on the community.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
Which is why I started by saying when they say values are imposed on them, they're usually talking abt other ppl's rights not their own
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I know. I just contemplated on the claim if liberals can truly say we don't push our values on any one. That's all.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
If you define ' values being pushed on' as ' values existing commonly along with your right not to participate' yes.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1
This is what I meant they mean by 'pushed on' - having to know other people are doing things you don't like. I reject this definition.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
But our lives do influence each other. We interact. So often it's not just knowing.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
I haven't denied that we influence each other. Where do you think we disagree?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Only on the part where we don't "push" our values/ideas on others. Liberty for all is a value that not all share. Or to a certain degree
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose
That certain degree may differ per person This is what keeps me thinking I know this might sound minor to us, but apparently it's not 2 them
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I know. It's we who are new and weird. I found Haidt mind-changing on this.
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