Exactly. And when a society is mostly liberal, those ppl can claim liberal views are being pushed on them.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
But that doesn't make any sense unless, as I said, they mean 'my right to impose my values on others is being prevented.'
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Replying to @HPluckrose
It is. I know this sounds ludicrous to us. But not all believe in liberty for all. Not truly. We make rules as a society. What is & what
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
I know they don't. But they cannot say that liberty is forced on them when their right to deny themselves any rights or freedoms remains.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
It's not about just themselves. Not all are as focused on the individual as us. Conservatives focus more on the community.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
Which is why I started by saying when they say values are imposed on them, they're usually talking abt other ppl's rights not their own
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I know. I just contemplated on the claim if liberals can truly say we don't push our values on any one. That's all.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose
I'm not saying we're wrong, Helen. But merely exploring the possibility that we can't avoid pushing our ideas on ppl through law.
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Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1
But I think we agree. I think you're restating what I said. When ppl say this, they mean that.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I do. I try not to make it seem like I think they're right. But it is a different way of thinking which I think os useful to understand.
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Yes. Haidt is very good on this, isn't he. But do you think we disagree on something and if so, what?
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