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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Coz my liberal perspective leads me to defend the rights of conservatives to express & live according to very conservative views.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      If I were to genuinely try to impose my views on others, conservativism & religion & large sections of social justice activism wld be banned

      3 replies 2 retweets 11 likes
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      That would be illiberal. Ppl calling themselves liberal but not applying this principle to their own values seem very confused to me.

      2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
    4. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I remember a conversation we had once. We can push our liberal values in some way. It's a bit of a paradox. Think speech, abortion etc.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1

      Pushing anyone to say or not say anything, to have or not have abortions is not liberal. No-one is pushed by other ppl having same choice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      True. But we base laws on them. Example: man is conservative, woman liberal. Woman wishes not to keep baby. Man does. Law agrees with her

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 29 May 2017
      Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

      Free speech: person is to endure what is said to him/her I agree with these things. Yet, I can see how this can feel like it's pushed on ppl

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    8. Tamara Brouwer‏ @TamaraBrouwer1 29 May 2017
      Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1 @HPluckrose

      Though I think we think of liberal more as the ppl representing the label, than label representing the ppl. If that makes sense.

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @TamaraBrouwer1

      Yes, we do. That's essentially what I'm addressing. If liberal values are being imposed on you, liberals have become illiberal.

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    10. Ben‏ @BristolBen 29 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1

      It depends what values. I'm perfectly fine with imposing tolerance. More generally, human rights.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
      Replying to @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1

      They can't impact other people, no. This is not an imposition but preventing ppl from imposing on others.

      6:33 AM - 29 May 2017
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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
          Replying to @DurinnMcFurren @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1

          And they do.

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        4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 29 May 2017
          Replying to @DurinnMcFurren @BristolBen @TamaraBrouwer1

          I think so. I don't see any disagreement anywhere but people seem to think they disagree with me so I may have phrased things badly.

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        1. Ben‏ @BristolBen 29 May 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @TamaraBrouwer1

          Yes, exactly. Preventing intolerance (an equivalent statement) is a duty and the only thing we can impose.

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