Yes. Don't get me wrong. I agree with your point. Considering the no of ppl claiming the label, yet reject the core values.
I know they don't. But they cannot say that liberty is forced on them when their right to deny themselves any rights or freedoms remains.
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It's not about just themselves. Not all are as focused on the individual as us. Conservatives focus more on the community.
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Which is why I started by saying when they say values are imposed on them, they're usually talking abt other ppl's rights not their own
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I know. I just contemplated on the claim if liberals can truly say we don't push our values on any one. That's all.
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If you define ' values being pushed on' as ' values existing commonly along with your right not to participate' yes.
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This is what I meant they mean by 'pushed on' - having to know other people are doing things you don't like. I reject this definition.
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But our lives do influence each other. We interact. So often it's not just knowing.
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I haven't denied that we influence each other. Where do you think we disagree?
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Only on the part where we don't "push" our values/ideas on others. Liberty for all is a value that not all share. Or to a certain degree
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