It shouldn't make sense to say that liberals want to impose their values on everyone else. If it does, liberals are liberaling wrong.
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Coz my liberal perspective leads me to defend the rights of conservatives to express & live according to very conservative views.
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If I were to genuinely try to impose my views on others, conservativism & religion & large sections of social justice activism wld be banned
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That would be illiberal. Ppl calling themselves liberal but not applying this principle to their own values seem very confused to me.
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I remember a conversation we had once. We can push our liberal values in some way. It's a bit of a paradox. Think speech, abortion etc.
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Pushing anyone to say or not say anything, to have or not have abortions is not liberal. No-one is pushed by other ppl having same choice.
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True. But we base laws on them. Example: man is conservative, woman liberal. Woman wishes not to keep baby. Man does. Law agrees with her
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But because the embryo is in her not coz she's liberal. The same would apply if she were conservative & wanted to keep baby but man didn't.
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This feels like some sort of recursive Catch-22 issue.
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Not really. I don't want to impose liberal views on them. I want them to be able to live as they see fit & express their views.
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Someone always gets to impose their will on other people, usually via the law. Homosexuality was illegal. Others gained power & legalised it
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Yes but this removed an imposition. No-one is forced to have gay sex by removing the ban on it.
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That's true. But it does present people who want nothing to do with homosexuality with a problem, as they are obliged not to discriminate.
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Yes. Also people who want nothing to do with black people or women or any group. They can always not go out, I suppose?
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But my point is that these people had perfectly legal views, until they suddenly found themselves on the wrong side of an imposed law.
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I was aware of this.
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