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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      Is the argument here that drawing faulty conclusions from faulty evidence is fine because gender studies also does this?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      Or that I'm not allowed to criticise the people drawing these conclusions until I've embarked on a process of criticising gender studies?

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. J Metz‏ @drjmetz 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @YeyoZa and

      you seem to be having more issues with what surrounds the article, than the article

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @drjmetz @YeyoZa and

      'What surrounds the article' is now brought up as a defence of the faulty logic and bad reasoning of that article. Which is my issue.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      Even if all of gender studies were evil, the logic would still be flawed. So why are people angrily defending bad analysis?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      We keep trying to explain. Its not that we thought everything was fine, then this came along & suddenly all convinced there's a huge problem

      2 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @KetanJ0 and

      It's one more particularly satisfying bit of evidence in line with what we've all been seeing for quite a few years now.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @drjmetz and

      Sure. And my point is that the hoax is classed as "satisfying" rather than being critiqued for logical holes. That's a serious problem.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      Not going here again. You're seeing it as a bigger claim than it is. It is what it is. The limitations have been spelled out by authors.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Ketan Joshi‏Verified account @KetanJ0 21 May 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @drjmetz and

      As I highlight in my post, that's not how it was framed by prominent figures. That's also important. Why did they contradict the authors?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 21 May 2017
      Replying to @KetanJ0 @drjmetz and

      You are missing the bigger picture! Just more confirming evidence. I'm not going here again. Already tried to explain this.

      3:52 PM - 21 May 2017
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        2. ghost of departed quantities‏ @Eschatom 21 May 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @KetanJ0 and

          But it's not confirming evidence for your hypothesis (gender studies is bad). It's confirming evidence for 'bad journals publish anything'.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. J Metz‏ @drjmetz 21 May 2017
          Replying to @Eschatom @HPluckrose and

          LOL. YES! That was exactly their conclusion. :)

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        4. ghost of departed quantities‏ @Eschatom 21 May 2017
          Replying to @drjmetz @HPluckrose and

          No, their main conclusion was 'journals in gender studies publish anything'. But the first, reputable gender studies journal rejected it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. ghost of departed quantities‏ @Eschatom 21 May 2017
          Replying to @Eschatom @drjmetz and

          What's more, there are many examples of similarly bogus papers in the hard sciences being accepted by crappy pay-to-publish journals.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. ghost of departed quantities‏ @Eschatom 21 May 2017
          Replying to @Eschatom @drjmetz and

          I'm not here to tell you gender studies is or isn't a reputable field, I'm here to tell you that the hoax doesn't support either position

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. J Metz‏ @drjmetz 21 May 2017
          Replying to @Eschatom @HPluckrose and

          There is far greater scrutiny on the hoax than on the discipline.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. ghost of departed quantities‏ @Eschatom 21 May 2017
          Replying to @drjmetz @HPluckrose and

          Whether or not that's true, that's not a defense of the hoax itself, is it?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. J Metz‏ @drjmetz 21 May 2017
          Replying to @Eschatom @HPluckrose and

          what accusation does it need to defend, exactly?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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