When discussing gender for political or legal reasons, you do need to define exactly what you're talking about. Get a motte & bailey thing.
You're missing my point completely. I may perceive a man as a bit feminine. You might not see it at all.
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All the more reason to exclude perception entirely and refer to which structural dials are switched in order to differentiate.
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No, thanks. I can discuss perceptions too.
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That's really what I do. Look at the ways people made sense of sex and gender historically. The biological reality remains the same.
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Totally get you. There's this one app that turns pictures of ppl in male (manlier) or female (more feminine) version of themselves.
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And we could analyse this by talking about bone structure & skin texture differences or we can talk about how this affects our perceptions.
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And it does have an impact on our perception. I can even show you the same guy, styled differently and with different body posture...
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Plus the mannerisms that you mentioned.
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Then I look at men style fashion, hair, cosmetic products in some cultures, particularly in Japan, and I can see how that adds to it all.
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And that's just purely physical appearance (bigger, rounder eyes, more roundness/fat to the face, fuller lips, smaller chin = more feminine)
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