But mostly ppl had to get through lives which were hard and they had to do it together & they felt love & loyalty & commitment.
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Yes. Of course. But I think Liberalism and individualism would suffer during such times. Freedom in the broad sense, yes.
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Then we get collectivist naturally as our tribal instincts kick in.
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Yes. I was pondering if too much freedom could possibly have the same effect. A possible explanation for the political climate, as of late.
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Yes. There have been some things written bordering on this, haven't there? We have trouble getting away from tribalism.
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I'm sure there have been. I was applying this theory to the left instead of the right. Usually it's connected to the populist right.
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But I think you could apply it to the left as well. Or maybe that has been done as well...

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I was thinking of what Haidt and Douthat etc have said about liberalism & democracy not doing well in diversity & being rather unnatural.
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I must have read that. Wasn't necessarily thinking of this, but yes. Diversity isn't really natural. Tribalism is part of our nature.
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