OK, not for my purposes. Doesn't matter if Muhammad really meant OK to beat wives or not. Ppl think he did & its morally wrong.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
That's fine when you argue that to someone who shares a secular viewpoint, but it would not necessarily convince a devout person.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Do you think there are many Muslim people who would change their mind as the result of reading that?
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Replying to @ianpacemain
Change their mind about what? What have I suggested they change their mind about?
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Replying to @HPluckrose
My point is that you are taking a secular humanist view of Islam. That may be meaningless to some devout Muslims.
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Replying to @ianpacemain @HPluckrose
Actually, I take an even more militant secularist view, and hate relativists who compromise on that in the name of multiculturalism.
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Replying to @ianpacemain @HPluckrose
There is some point at which dialogue becomes impossible, because of fundamentally different premises.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
That's not necessarily compatible with a messianic and proselytising religion.
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