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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      It is a legitimate thing to point out that the debate on post-modernism in architecture precedes (and informs) Lyotard's text.

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain

      That would be, yes! Quite another thing to suggest I should have included it in my look at epistemic & cultural relativity & IdPol

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    3. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I think the problem was attributing the coining of the term 'postmodernism' to Lyotard - many had used it before him.

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain

      OK but not to describe the kind of thought I'm talking about?

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    5. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Yes, in some ways - and certainly on the debates which developed after Lyotard's publication. Lyotard himself took term from Ihab Hassan.

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain

      OK! Please write something about this. I'd be interested to read it.

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    7. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      You'll find all of this in https://www.amazon.co.uk/Origins-Postmodernity-Perry-Anderson/dp/1859842224/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493599779&sr=8-1&keywords=perry+anderson+the+origins+of+postmodernity …

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    8. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain @HPluckrose

      Anderson cites Spanish critic Federico de Onis as the originator, in the context of considering Spanish/Latin American modernism

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain

      How influential is de Onis on the phenomenon?

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    10. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      I haven't read de Onis, but Anderson suggests that Peruvian 'modernismo' entailed a particular declaration of cultural independence from...

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @ianpacemain

      Is he cited by Judith Butler or Kimberle Crenshaw or Edward Said or anyone significant to the academic shift I'm talking about?

      5:59 PM - 30 Apr 2017
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        2. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Not to my knowledge. But that isn't necessarily the point. There are many intermediary figures between de Onis and Lyotard.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @ianpacemain

          It's mine tho. I'm working backwards from the problems we're facing now to the source & the shift in the academic left.

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        4. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
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          But I'm not so sure you can locate a single source in that way. And so many in that tradition have rarely read Lyotard properly.

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @ianpacemain

          It's not a single source. The compulsory reading lists include many more.

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        6. Ian Pace #FBPE‏ @ianpacemain 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I know, but Lyotard's work both there and elsewhere is considerably more complex than how it is often portrayed.

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        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @ianpacemain

          We're told to read him. He portrays it himself.

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