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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Apr 2017

    I'm sick of getting stuck at this impasse. In future, I'll post this & if other still doesn't get it, I'll accept they're determined not to.pic.twitter.com/npv2ouM7gF

    4:38 PM - 27 Apr 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Number of times I have made a little flashcard to stop me having the same arguments repeatedly - 44. Number of times this has worked - 0

        4 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      3. Neil Mungeam‏ @neilmungeam 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If it is any consolation Helen, our discussion about Tim Farron gave me a lot to think about and i partially reconsidered my position.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @neilmungeam

        :) It is! I needed that. Thank you. My ideas shift slightly in response to other people's. Sometimes radically but seldom.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Your card doesn't explain why free speech can work & censoring speech can't. We must hear odious ideas directly from those who believe them.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @pogsurf

        No, it's explaining that supporting free speech for nasty ideas doesn't mean you support them.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        For bad ideas to be countered they must be heard "in their most plausible and persuasive form". cf J S Millhttp://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66643-he-who-knows-only-his-own-side-of-the-case …

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      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @pogsurf

        Yes, I recognised the Mill quote. In that one, I am talking about being on the same side but having different approaches.

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      6. Martin Wiesner‏ @pogsurf 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Socially on the same side, but in tactical terms you are on the opposite side to one who seeks censorship. Y should he support your method?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @pogsurf

        We can talk about that once they've accepted we both want the same thing. That's an essential starting point.

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      2. Roaming Millenarian‏ @MillenarianWoes 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You have over 7,000 followers on here. Having these arguments isn’t totally pointless, who knows how many people you might have influenced!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @MillenarianWoes

        :) I don't think it is pointless. I have influenced people and they have influenced me.

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      2. Ania Kovas‏ @aniakovas 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Oh Helen Pluckrose, I return to Twitter after a few days absence and your thoughts curl comfortably around my very heart and hug it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @aniakovas

        You are so poetic, Ania!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ania Kovas‏ @aniakovas 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        One responds to one's muse as merely a vessel for the truth and beauty that one's muse brings to the world.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Atheist Revolution‏ @vjack 28 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        That’s brilliant! I may have to “culturally appropriate” it.

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      1. okamiden‏ @foodie0606 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis

        but you are NOT on the same side. those who "don't get it" are only interested in power, not in finding good solutions.

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      1. Tibo‏ @TiboDMZ 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @NAChristakis

        They are determined not to. They love it. It is those that watch on the sidelines that need a small push to stand up.

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      2. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        You may be too generous. I find people attacking me are often genuine bigots. They are probably ignorant of it but that's no excuse.

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      3. Sᴛᴇᴠᴇɴ Wɪʟʟɪᴀᴍꜱᴏɴ‏ @scarce_sense 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @scarce_sense @HPluckrose

        They may have good intentions (doesn't everyone?) but their language and arguments are intrinsically hate-filled and prejudiced.

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      1. Si  🚴🏻‏ @Si_Copath 27 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Perfect. But, as you already said, some people are determined to not understand.

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