Also, 'I'm not going to support western Muslim reformers coz they haven't revolutionised Saudi Arabia.'
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If you won't support Muslim reformers until they've already won everywhere, there'll be nothing for you to support ever.
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I think it's just a defensive reaction in case people see the existence of Muslim reformers & liberals as evidence that the problem is over.
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Otherwise doesn't make sense to respond to: "Here are Muslim reformers doing good things." With "Here is an oppressive Islamic theocracy."
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But, in reality, we can support Muslim reformers & liberals whilst recognising the scale of the problem with Islam.
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True. It's less about supporting "where they stand" as supporting their "direction of travel".
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Not sure I follow your statement Helen but here are my thoughts on "reform" https://twitter.com/REnlightenment/status/855761643795558400 … And check out
#QuilliamsFinestMoments
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It seems muslim reformers spend most energy dealing with non muslims. Non muslims aren't in need of reform.
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You seem to have a blind spot in this area. Many legit reasons to think reformers are wasting time, money, good will and are a distraction
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