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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017

    I don't understand the POV, 'I'm going to oppose Muslim reformers coz most Muslims aren't reformers.' Why not support the ones who are?

    9:54 AM - 25 Apr 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Also, 'I'm not going to support western Muslim reformers coz they haven't revolutionised Saudi Arabia.'

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If you won't support Muslim reformers until they've already won everywhere, there'll be nothing for you to support ever.

        2 replies 2 retweets 6 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think it's just a defensive reaction in case people see the existence of Muslim reformers & liberals as evidence that the problem is over.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Otherwise doesn't make sense to respond to: "Here are Muslim reformers doing good things." With "Here is an oppressive Islamic theocracy."

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But, in reality, we can support Muslim reformers & liberals whilst recognising the scale of the problem with Islam.

        2 replies 5 retweets 9 likes
      7. Some Body‏ @KevinOnEarth 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        True. It's less about supporting "where they stand" as supporting their "direction of travel".

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      2. 99:1‏ @ninetynine_one 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think @REnlightenment could help here.

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      3. Re-Enlightenment‏ @REnlightenment 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @ninetynine_one @HPluckrose

        Re-Enlightenment Retweeted Re-Enlightenment

        Not sure I follow your statement Helen but here are my thoughts on "reform" https://twitter.com/REnlightenment/status/855761643795558400 … And check out #QuilliamsFinestMoments

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        Putting my thoughts on "reforming" Islam together. Might add to it in future. Let's start with key questions, and @adamdeen's answers. 1/ pic.twitter.com/IqqFMnTQCK
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      1. 99:1‏ @ninetynine_one 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It seems muslim reformers spend most energy dealing with non muslims. Non muslims aren't in need of reform.

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      1. 99:1‏ @ninetynine_one 25 Apr 2017
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        You seem to have a blind spot in this area. Many legit reasons to think reformers are wasting time, money, good will and are a distraction

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