I see another important use of the term 'Islamism' tho to describe people who have the political agenda of enforcing Islam on others.
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There is a different between holding illiberal beliefs and enforcing them on your family & attempting to enforce them on society.
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Not a huge ethical difference between forcing it on your family vs your society but a big difference for the society.
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In the same way that a fundamentalist Christian might terrorise his family & hold horrible views is different to a Christian dominionist.
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This is not an attempt to soften the problem or remove it from Islam but sometimes we need to talk abt different ways problems manifest.
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Liberals will get you killed by Muslims
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Liberal Muslims will not kill you & reformers honestly point out the problems.
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Rubbish. You really have been fooled. I meant liberal NON Muslims
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Well, I was talking about liberal Muslims. Also I am a liberal non-Muslim & I will not get you killed my Muslims either.
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That's a waste of time I'm afraid. It is beyond reform in my mind
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Which would be a problem if you were Muslim. Here is my piece on why we should support Muslim reformers. http://helenpluckroseblogs.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/why-atheists-should-support-muslim.html …
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The moment indoctrination (child abuse) stops then maybe there's a very faint hope. But, that's never going to happen. Pissing in the wind
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It is happening tho. Why not support the people involved in it even if its small?
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It's NOT happening in Saudi Arabia though. The home of Islam. All the clerics are nuttier than squirrel shit. And extremely dangerous
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Obv, if you live in Saudi Arabia, you won't be able to support reformers, then. If not, you still can.
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There has not even been a whiff of reform for Islam in 1400 years. Any hint of it is deemed heretic. You may as well be an apostate
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Reformers exist tho. Why not support them?
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"Reformers" are liars
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Oh dear. I know its easier to see a whole group as far-right loons but evidence does show that liberals & reformers also exist.
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