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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017

    Helen Pluckrose Retweeted Adrian Bailey

    Perhaps you aren't even dehumanised & erased metaphorically by ppl having different ideas? Perhaps you are simply disagreed with?https://twitter.com/BaileyNagy/status/856786388246835200 …

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    Adrian Bailey @BaileyNagy
    Replying to @HPluckrose
    It's a metaphor
    2:27 AM - 25 Apr 2017
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      2. simon frost‏ @frost_to 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        There's no hierarchy of pain suffered from exposure to different ideas; it's totally subjective. That's why harm doesn't extend to speech.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @frost_to

        Of course, I agree. Did you think I didn't?

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      4. simon frost‏ @frost_to 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        'Dehumanised & erased metaphorically by ppl having different ideas' would be subjective so no different to 'just disagreed with'

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @frost_to

        That is essentially my point, yes.

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      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @frost_to

        I am saying that no matter what it feels like, you're just being disagreed with.

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      7. simon frost‏ @frost_to 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Ah, it reads like being 'just simply' disagreed with is somehow a less painful experience. Anyway, it sounds like we're on the same page.

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      2. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        People feel isolated/excluded through others' use of language. It's ok to validate that, w/o necessarily agreeing w their proposed solution.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @BaileyNagy

        Would you be sympathetic to both sides - trans activists & radfem - feeling invalidated as women coz of speech of the other?

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      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @BaileyNagy

        I'm more sympathetic to trans women, tbh, but I'm not very sympathetic to hyperbolic demands that people stop saying or start saying things.

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      5. Adrian Bailey‏ @BaileyNagy 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yes and yes. One can invoke Canute, I suppose. Some such demands are (rightly and wrongly) acceded to, which feeds entitlement.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. ヾ(。ꏿ﹏ꏿ)ノ゙‏ @VastScenario 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The use of metaphors is excluding and erasing literal minded people and is therefore an ablist reproduction of neurotypical supremacy!

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @VastScenario

        Go and sit in the corner and think about what you just did.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. simon frost‏ @frost_to 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Unusual position to take, from an advocate of free speech.

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 25 Apr 2017
        Replying to @frost_to

        What is?

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