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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017

    I also hear a lot of 'You fundamentally misunderstand but I'm far too busy & important & intellectually/morally superior to explain.'

    7:58 AM - 22 Apr 2017
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      2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        This is complete cobblers coz if you are busy or someone lacks basic understanding of a complex issue, you ignore them or recommend reading.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        If it's something you think it's important people do understand, you either have sources at the ready or, if they're lacking, write one.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I'm currently writing (very slowly) a 10,000 word thing abt exactly what intersectionality is, what its aims are & why it fails them.

        3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Because I am so sick of ppl telling me I don't understand the principles & motivations & that there are no problems with it in practice.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I keep thinking that if I show the foundations, ethos, development, aims & practice with much citation & evidence, this will not be possible

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And we can instead move on to discussing intersectionality itself, whether it could be useful, why it mostly hasn't been & what to do.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        But I've come to realise that this is psychologically flawed coz the problem isn't genuinely abt understanding & evidence.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        The disconnect won't be resolved by ensuring everybody is clear on what we're talking abt, just like it doesn't when discussing religion.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      10. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        'You don't understand' usually means 'you're not looking at this with the somewhat vague but positive ideologically-based attitude I have.'

        1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
      11. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        It's not that I don't have enough knowledge or comprehension of religion/PoMo/intersectionality but that I'm not on the bandwagon.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      12. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Often, if I manage to convince ppl I understand it as well or better than they do, ppl tell me I'm over-complicating it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      13. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        And really it all comes down to 'Love your neighbour', 'culture has influence on thinking' and 'discrimination can be complicated'.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      14. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Which is a typical motte & bailey move because of course, these ideas don't belong to these schools of thought but are widely accepted.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      15. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        What people are usually saying is 'I care about the welfare of other people & I need something to believe in & belong to.'

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      16. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Although sometimes there's a subtext, 'I'm also motivated to be a pretentious, self-righteous twat about it.'

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      2. T. Hinker‏ @thought4day2 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        First time I heard "Native Informant". I asked if it was essentially the same as calling someone a coconut? Oh the sneering! - but it is

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. T. Hinker‏ @thought4day2 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @thought4day2 @HPluckrose

        And they didn't have the time to explain the difference to someone as stupid as me.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Tina K.‏ @TheEsteemedFox 22 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Guh. If one is so knowledgeable, then it's one's duty to convince you of his argument. That goes doubly so for a specialist, academic, etc.

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      1. David Harley‏ @DavidHarley6 22 Apr 2017
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        H, fuck em, they're dicks don't waste the emotional energy

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