I get so impatient with people talking abt social pressures re: gender roles because the way they do it is so weak-willed & defeatist.
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If you feel a social pressure that you don't like, don't do it. No, that's not always easy but the alternative is changing everyone else.
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I'm talking abt social pressure to do things that must be a choice for other ppl like having babies, wearing make-up, being a feminist.
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Someone just asked me what is a person to do if refusing socially conservative gender roles loses her her family? Be sad? Lean on friends?
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Unclear what other solution there is. Make your family, community stop being socially conservative? Somehow turn the social pressure round?
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Or alternatively ppl who have told me they now feel society devalues them as a stay-at-home mother coz feminism such a strong cultural force
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The sense of having been wronged by this pressure seems to imply some kind of social adjustment required. Society must share my values more.
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In fact, it doesn't have to. It just has to give you the right to live according to them and also make arguments for them.
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Then you really need to find like-minded ppl for your social support & cultivate resilience to being exposed to other ideas.
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I don't think we do too badly here, really, re: gender roles. There are plenty of role models consistent with traditional & non-conforming.
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that's not the only solution they ask for, just one of the weaker ones.
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OK, not just stop showing princesses in movies or feminists? Possibly prosecute ppl who make the movies or ID as feminists?
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who is actually talking about that ?
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You've not seen feminist critique of this? And in video games? And diet shake ads?
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You came into this conversation coz a radfem was claiming that the existence of beauty pageants etc proves society hates women.
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