Men like to look at semi-clad women is misogyny really is a dominant arg here. Included existence of bikinis & beauty pageants.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
We could ask: how is that desire being shaped and catered to, and what are preconditions for satisfying it in this way.
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Replying to @fronxer
We could. And we should. With a basis in whether women are enjoying their part in it.We can also look at fascinating psychological diffs tho
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Also, there can be 'local' enjoyment at the cost of disempowerment in a bigger (e.g. ecomonic, non-sexual) context.
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Replying to @fronxer
Absolutely. That is the collectivist claim. Individuals should not prioritise their own preferences if detracts from moral collective aims
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Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer
This is used to argue against gender non-conformists and also non-conforming feminists. I'm always on the side of the individual.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
While I agree with that, I'm not so interested in moral imperatives and more interested in factors constraining choices.
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Replying to @fronxer
But that will be a moral concern. Choices being constrained is not important unless we have a premise that this is morally wrong.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @fronxer
When we address these issues, we are motivated by moral concerns - by ethics, principles.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Yes, on a higher level, i.e. we would be looking at freedom from oppression, rather than whether particular choices are 'good'.
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Yes. Freedom from oppression is good.
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