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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Apr 2017

      Helen Pluckrose Retweeted joseph graves

      OK, but better a live coward than a dead hero? Survive to fight another day? I support closeted atheists living in theocracies.https://twitter.com/josephjgraves/status/852533388607193088 …

      Helen Pluckrose added,

      joseph graves @josephjgraves
      Replying to @HPluckrose
      I understand where you're coming from but lying to save oneself is the epitome of cowardice. It's the very definition of the word.
      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    2. joseph graves‏ @josephjgraves 13 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      1. Very debatable 2. Absolutely. My response was more at the idea of if u or I or another westerner should find ourselves being questioned

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 13 Apr 2017
      Replying to @josephjgraves

      We don't really need to lie to save ourselves. From harm, that is. If we do, then I think its ethically justifiable to do so.

      8:01 AM - 13 Apr 2017
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        2. joseph graves‏ @josephjgraves 13 Apr 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          it's ethically justified to lie to save others. Feigning belief in Alllah and the prophet is submission. The act becomes the truth.

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        3. 少年听雨歌楼上‏ @RosesofE 13 Apr 2017
          Replying to @josephjgraves @HPluckrose

          I think this is an interesting point. I feel I agree with @HPluckrose more instinctively, because mostly self preservation is good.

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        4. 少年听雨歌楼上‏ @RosesofE 13 Apr 2017
          Replying to @RosesofE @josephjgraves @HPluckrose

          But on reflection I think you have a point re if you pretends, especially for a long period of time, you contribute to the whole system.

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        5. 少年听雨歌楼上‏ @RosesofE 13 Apr 2017
          Replying to @RosesofE @josephjgraves @HPluckrose

          But I still don't think it's anything good to demand everyone be martyrs.

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        6. joseph graves‏ @josephjgraves 13 Apr 2017
          Replying to @RosesofE @HPluckrose

          Absolutely. I've made no demands here. Only a moral injunction.

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