Personally, I'd rather be free to drive myself. But I'm not a Saudi woman and it's not for me to dictate to them how they should feel.
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Replying to @melliflora @HPluckrose
I agree broadly with your social analysis, but not with your ethical analysis.
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Replying to @BristolBen @HPluckrose
Do you believe you understand the majority of Saudi women's interests better than they do themselves, Ben?
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Replying to @melliflora @HPluckrose
It's not a matter of interests. It's a matter of ethics. Those women are benefiting at the expense of others.
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Replying to @BristolBen @melliflora
Deeply utilitarian. Its in a majority's interests to deny freedoms to a minority so doing so is ethical.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen
In this case the majority sees this as a minority wanting to deny a coveted right to the majority. Still sound "deeply utilitarian" to you?
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There are other reasons why a large majority of Saudi women support the driving ban. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/02/saudi-protest-driving-ban-not-popular …pic.twitter.com/l4L5ShIlcN
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Replying to @melliflora @BristolBen
Enough! Our ethical premises are different. This evidence of yours convinces a conservative collectivist not a liberal individualist.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @BristolBen
I respect how majority of Saudi women want their country run. Even though I find their views foreign & hard to understand. It's not our call
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Replying to @melliflora @BristolBen
I don't. I am a liberal. I think women, LGBTs, liberals, atheists etc deserve human rights no matter where they live. Fundamental difference
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Between cultural relativity & consistent liberalism. But you are unwilling to address my views as they are which is disappointing so goodbye
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