'Circumcision is a feminist plot to emasculate men.' 'Saudi is gynocentric coz the women are lazy bitches who exploit men economically' https://twitter.com/melliflora/status/850905565631057920 …
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I've never heard an analysis like the one in Karen Straughan's video anywhere else. And, I think it's likelier than not that you haven't.
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I suspect I have. She outlined it to me over the course of a couple of hours.
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The fact that you used the word "oppression" in your dismissal of a quote of hers makes me question how well you understand her position.
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I know she doesn't think oppression applies. I know she thinks there are different duties and privileges & it works in a complementary way.
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But this is completely irrelevant to my view on women's rights in history which I happen to know something about.
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There are a lot of very good analyses of the pros & cons of patriarchy for both sexes & how it played out in practice.
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I write about the ways in which women negotiated authority & autonomy for themselves within systems that ostensibly denied this.
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I know quite a lot about the burdens it placed on men too. For many couples it worked. For others it did not. Coz people vary.
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Helen is one of the most reasonable and educated voices you're likely to find on gender-Twitter. Just sayin.
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That said, Helen...I dont know that Ive ever heard an MRA claim that circumcision is part of a feminist plot O.o
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I'll see if I can find him. He used to haunt Yahoo Answers with this. He was quite a character.
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mmkay. There are some loons, no doubt...& lack of clear leadership (aside from AVfM) can make it hard to nail down what is a dominant belief
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They vary hugely like feminists. Why I mention both in my pinned tweet and say this:https://twitter.com/HPluckrose/status/850902465960652800 …
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As a historian who knows her stuff [you], I'd love to hear your thoughts on that one. IIRC, TL;DR: well-intentioned measures to benefit a...
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group can backfire horribly against the same group. e.g, veil could have been protection against rival tribes. Now its oppression. But I ...
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don't know enough history to evaluate her claims. You do :D.
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You can find my stuff on this on http://Academia.edu -see particularly Aemilia Lanyer and Margery Kempe but it is a hugely complex field
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Oh, I will, thanks! I suspect "hugely complex" is an understatement. It may be too complex for my puny brain. I hope not.
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There's just so much information & nuance & it's hard to interpret. Like piecing a jigsaw together.
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