For a lot of these center-leftists, discussion of class is not only taboo because of ID politics, but also because they are capitalist.
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Replying to @apeirophobic
I think we have a different conception of centre-leftism. I see the radical left & the PoMo left as 'far' but different branches of far.
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Replying to @HPluckrose @apeirophobic
And the centre/moderate left (me) as old-style universal liberals with a more culturally libertarian but economically leftist bent.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I think this is why two-axis spectrum is better. Mixing up left-right dichotomy with libertarian-authoritarian dichotomy creates confusion.
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Replying to @apeirophobic
But it is the political reality. Its the Left that's been screwed up by identity politics and cultural relativity.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
Seems more a problem for centrists than the far left. On the far left, identity politics are widely reviled and relativism not even present.
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Replying to @apeirophobic
The radical far-left. Identity politics and relativism is the other far-left. The centrists also revile them.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
This is not to say these things are non-existent in the left spectrum, but the Democrats are not leftists. We do not have a leftist party.
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Replying to @apeirophobic
The Democrats have similar policies to our Conservative party. However, Left & Right fall either side of any culture's centre.
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Replying to @HPluckrose
I discard the Overton Window when speaking about political philosophy as I think everyone should. That is cultural relativism.
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OK, well I don't think talking is going to be possible then. About this, anyway. Hopefully we can talk about other things in the future.
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