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    Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 8 Apr 2017

    I'm afraid I'm no more sympathetic to MRA victimhood mentality & insanely biased readings of society than I am to feminist ones.

    7:37 PM - 8 Apr 2017
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      2. Tina Russell  🏛 Ἱερόδουλη Ἀφροδίτης‏ @Tina_Russell 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        I think they're both off the mark, but I feel the MRAs have a way more legitimate bone to pick these days, while feminism just gets crazier.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @Tina_Russell

        There could be a very reasonable MRM & I have met a few but I also get ppl ranting at me abt how women need to focus on being mothers.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Tina Russell  🏛 Ἱερόδουλη Ἀφροδίτης‏ @Tina_Russell 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Yeah, I feel like Twitter just brings out the worst in every group. (sigh) I guess I also see the MRM with rose-tinted glasses because of…

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. Tina Russell  🏛 Ἱερόδουλη Ἀφροδίτης‏ @Tina_Russell 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @Tina_Russell @HPluckrose

        …how many times and in how many ways feminism and feminists have hurt me.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @Tina_Russell

        :-( I think the time has come for a focus on gender equality which doesn't come from one perspective. That does lead to victimhood claims.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      7. muhfeelz‏ @muhfeelz 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Tina_Russell

        a focus on legal equality supports the MRA cause

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @muhfeelz @Tina_Russell

        It supports the MRA aim for legal equality. But you don't need to be an MRA & have all the accompanying baggage to want equality,

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. muhfeelz‏ @muhfeelz 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @Tina_Russell

        Anyone who objects to feminism, especially in favor of male legal rights becoming equal to female legal rights, is called a MRA.

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      2. MensRightsInitiative‏ @The1MRI 10 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose @cgarrett101

        We are not asking for sympathy, nor do we want to be viewed as perpetual victims, we only want fairness.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 10 Apr 2017
        Replying to @The1MRI @cgarrett101

        Then you'll be one of the reasonable MRAs I do not criticise. Not keen on condemning a whole 'tribe.'

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      2. Stephen Genaro‏ @StephenG303 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        ..unfortunately is sorely needed right now. And given how little they're listened to they are just a small counterbalance

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @StephenG303

        I see a need for counterbalance but I encounter so many loons. Just see the conversations my mention of MRM has produced.

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      2. Pallor Ergo Doom‏ @SlagOffTwits 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Have you seen that Red Pill movie by any chance?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @SlagOffTwits

        I haven't. I intend to. Is it balanced at all?

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      4. Pallor Ergo Doom‏ @SlagOffTwits 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Hard to say. I'm not overly familiar with the topics (I found the movie looking for what "Red Pill" meant). But I thought it was.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Pallor Ergo Doom‏ @SlagOffTwits 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @SlagOffTwits @HPluckrose

        Bit of an eye opener for me. But one of the interviewees is Dean Esmay, and he is utterly despicable... I had to try to set that aside.

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      2. Stephen Genaro‏ @StephenG303 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        even if I don't identify as mra myself, I don't want to criticize that small counterbalance which already struggles to be heard

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @StephenG303

        I kinda do because I think so much of it undermines the cause & gives ammo to the feminists to say misogynists still exist & feminism needed

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Stephen Genaro‏ @StephenG303 9 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        from my experience feminist often misrepresent anything that anyone says against the feminist narrative.. Not just mra's

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. brett caton‏ @bcaton2 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        There are laws which treat men worse than women, and documents advising judges to give them longer sentences. Do you deny their existence?

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      3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @bcaton2

        No, I pointed this out to a feminist earlier today.

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      4. brett caton‏ @bcaton2 8 Apr 2017
        Replying to @HPluckrose

        Then you concede that MRA 'victimhood' has an objective reality; the law openly, clearly, discriminates against men only. E.g. ANZ Australia

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