I think they're both off the mark, but I feel the MRAs have a way more legitimate bone to pick these days, while feminism just gets crazier.
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There could be a very reasonable MRM & I have met a few but I also get ppl ranting at me abt how women need to focus on being mothers.
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Yeah, I feel like Twitter just brings out the worst in every group. (sigh) I guess I also see the MRM with rose-tinted glasses because of…
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…how many times and in how many ways feminism and feminists have hurt me.
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:-( I think the time has come for a focus on gender equality which doesn't come from one perspective. That does lead to victimhood claims.
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a focus on legal equality supports the MRA cause
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It supports the MRA aim for legal equality. But you don't need to be an MRA & have all the accompanying baggage to want equality,
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Anyone who objects to feminism, especially in favor of male legal rights becoming equal to female legal rights, is called a MRA.
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We are not asking for sympathy, nor do we want to be viewed as perpetual victims, we only want fairness.
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Then you'll be one of the reasonable MRAs I do not criticise. Not keen on condemning a whole 'tribe.'
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..unfortunately is sorely needed right now. And given how little they're listened to they are just a small counterbalance
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I see a need for counterbalance but I encounter so many loons. Just see the conversations my mention of MRM has produced.
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Have you seen that Red Pill movie by any chance?
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I haven't. I intend to. Is it balanced at all?
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Hard to say. I'm not overly familiar with the topics (I found the movie looking for what "Red Pill" meant). But I thought it was.
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Bit of an eye opener for me. But one of the interviewees is Dean Esmay, and he is utterly despicable... I had to try to set that aside.
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even if I don't identify as mra myself, I don't want to criticize that small counterbalance which already struggles to be heard
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I kinda do because I think so much of it undermines the cause & gives ammo to the feminists to say misogynists still exist & feminism needed
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from my experience feminist often misrepresent anything that anyone says against the feminist narrative.. Not just mra's
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There are laws which treat men worse than women, and documents advising judges to give them longer sentences. Do you deny their existence?
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No, I pointed this out to a feminist earlier today.
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Then you concede that MRA 'victimhood' has an objective reality; the law openly, clearly, discriminates against men only. E.g. ANZ Australia
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