Well, yeah. Seeing as how they decided what Islam was in the first place. Or do you think its divine revelation?
Also I don't care if you call liberal versions of Islam 'Islam' or not. The point is that reformers try to draw Muslims to it & that's good.
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Theological, philosophical or semantic arguments abt what constitutes true Islam are academic at best for Non-Muslims.
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Please try to remain civil.. Of course non-Muslims can have theological/philosophical/semantic arguments abt the definition of Islam.
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This is just a different argument to ethical considerations of whether Muslims can live & promote a form of it which supports liberal values
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That's like saying footballers should stop playing football but we'll still call them footballers. Still amazed as to how you can't grasp it
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I've grasped that there is a semantic argument to be made. I'm suggesting its less important than the reality of versions of Islam.
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If you have no opinion on the ethical argument of liberal forms of Islam but are speaking only about theological definitions, fine.
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I had the impression that you were telling Maajid that his liberal version cld not exist in reality rather than in theological definition.
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Until it's no longer Islam... What's better is ditching the religion entirely because it's abhorrent bullshit through and through.
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Say so. However, I'm still in favour of liberal interpretations of Islam as well.pic.twitter.com/XdETyqHCl3
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Liberal means open to new ideas. What if those ideas are even worse? You don't understand how many holes there are in literally every reply.
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Then address them.
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Simply saying the words 'reform' and 'liberal values' is not enough on their own, but that's the laziness you've shown.
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