I want to discuss truth & reality & how they differ from beliefs that are false or unproven.If you say the latter are also true & real, canthttps://twitter.com/BaileyNagy/status/848946269259268097 …
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But if we do not resolve that disagreement, we cannot discuss cats. 'They have soft fur & claws.' 'No, they have tough hides and a trunk.'
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This is not me being unreasonable & refusing to discuss anything with you unless you agree with me. It just doesn't work.
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It simply isn't possible to discuss the distinction between objective reality & false beliefs with someone who calls them both 'reality'.
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For purely logical reasons. To discuss a distinction between two things, both people have to accept they are distinct.
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It could be true or false that they are distinct. If its false, no point in having conversation about how they are distinct & why it matters
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Sorry. I know I'm labouring this point but it seems the problem is not clear. Its simply a practical necessity to have some agreement.
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Everyone involved in a discussion about whether evolution can work by group selection or not needs to accept that evolution is real.
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OK, I'm going to shut up now.
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