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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017

      aren't there gradations of truth or transcendent truths that do not easily fall into such a binary?

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    2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

      I'm not sure if you're being sincere or facetious?

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    3. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

      i'm just playing devil's advocate

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    4. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

      Can you give an example of something being both or neither true or untrue?

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    5. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

      ex. is smoking immoral? it could be either immoral or moral depending on circumstances, hence true or untrue to say its immoral.../1

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    6. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

      That's not reality. It's opinion. That is genuinely subjective. The truth claim wld be that cigarettes both do & do not exist.

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    7. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

      really? i don't think i follow. seems to me that example would be based on a set of truth claims,.../1

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

      Yes, there are truths to call on to form moral evaluations but they themselves are then subjective.

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    9. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

      is allowing husbands to beat wives a subjective moral evaluation? can you objectively say its wrong? at what point can you ?

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
      Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

      We need to set a premise that harming human beings is generally wrong. Doesn't exist objectively. Universe doesn't care.

      12:43 PM - 2 Apr 2017
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        2. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

          so you're not a harris-ian on ethics?

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
          Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

          He sets a premise regarding the wellbeing of conscious creatures. I share it. It's not objective. It's humanist.

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        4. John Zambri‏ @Zambrijc 2 Apr 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @jackcrafty

          i don't think his premise is arbitrary. i also know that doesn't mean that human prosperity is some ultimate goal of the universe either

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 2 Apr 2017
          Replying to @Zambrijc @jackcrafty

          It's not arbitrary. It's humanist. There is a difference between moral principles/judgements & factual truths.

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