@kenanmalik I cited your wonderful recent piece on the spread of postmodernism in my look at its roots & developmenthttps://areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/how-french-intellectuals-ruined-the-west-postmodernism-and-its-impact-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-403 …
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the thing is, if we believe that Enlightenment ideals are universal (that is how Enlightenment philo saw it)...
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What do you mean? They're not. Much of the world has never embraced it. They just include universalism.
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I disagree!!! Anti-colonialists were driven by Enlightenment ideals! Kenan writes about that all the time!
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Yes but they're not universal either!
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Elightenment philosophers consider their ideals to be universal
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They apply them universally. They don't believe everyone holds them
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of course! but they believe they anyone can hold them because all humans are endowed with reason
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Well, yes. How does anything I've said seem to deny that? I'm looking at postmodernists & their views & influences.
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then it is contradictory to say that it is Western.
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I don't know what you mean. It was born in the west & got most cultural power here. WEIRD societies.
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yes, of course it is more established here. I am way of constructing the West as monolith.. I don't want to deconstruct the West
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You won't find me doing that either! I talk about different & conflicting beliefs a lot.
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You article is very subtle and nuanced! No problem there! But there is a specific reason why I make this critique...
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it was born in the West, but it does not make it Western if we historicize the West.
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you're right. But Kenan would probably make the same point I am making.
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