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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. Anais Henrix‏ @anais_henrix 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      don't tell anyone but I have sympathy with fems position on hijab. I really dislike it and think it's wrong to force it on women

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    2. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @anais_henrix

      Remember back when liberals thought that symbols of women's oppression were wrong? Good times. @HPluckrose

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    3. Anais Henrix‏ @anais_henrix 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @sapient_ape @HPluckrose

      I don't think they always are; I'm sure many women who wear these things do so willingly.

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    4. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @anais_henrix

      There's a difference between willingly and choice. Coercion, inculcation, etc not exactly true freedom @HPluckrose

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    5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

      And it's tied to notions of virtue & modesty. No objection to scarves worn for aesthetic reasons.

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    6. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      My grandmother (catholic) wore a scarf every day. But she wasn't threatened with acid to the face if she didn't @anais_henrix

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    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

      Well, that's the choice part of it. The biggest part. The other part is the values attached to it.

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    8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

      This is my mother. She wears scarves coz no hair (fire) & likes pretty ones.pic.twitter.com/lP5tpwjk12

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    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

      She's not wearing it because she thinks women have a specific duty to be 'modest.' That idea I object to.

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    10. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose

      Quite. Being raised to believe it's sinful if you don't combined with threats if you deviate skews 'willingly' @anais_henrix

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
      Replying to @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

      Or even not combined with threats. Here younger generation more likely to wear niqab than parents.

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        2. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

          Because elements of younger generation have a more fundamentalist faith. Older generation may disapprove.

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        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

          But if a young woman takes on a niqab along with notions of female modesty & piety, I still disapprove.

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        4. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Even hijab. Cf teen filmed twerking recently - apologised after death threats and shaming @anais_henrix

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        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @sapient_ape @anais_henrix

          Yes, I know. My point is that free choice is not the only moral issue here. Can critique ideas freely chosen too

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        6. ѕαpíєnt αpє  🔬 🦏‏ @sapient_ape 19 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Of course! I criticise people who choose to harm animals or abuse children. I just don't think culture = choice @anais_henrix

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