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Editor @AreoMagazine Secular, liberal humanist. Mother. Doglover. Writing book about epistemology & ethics on the academic left Helen.pluckrose@areomagazine.com

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    1. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb

      The principles of free speech are that we debate & criticise ideas, not shout each-other into submission.

      2 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    2. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @christianjbdev

      both people can shout each other down and still not violate each others free speech rights.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb @christianjbdev

      But they violate the principle of being able to freely express ideas for those who want to hear them.

      2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    4. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      just because someone ruins your speech by being loud and disrespectful doesn't mean your rights were violated.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. (((Christian JB)))  🐌‏ @christianjbdev 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb

      Note that both me and @HPluckrose were careful to use the word'principles', as opposed to 'rights'.

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    6. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @christianjbdev @HPluckrose

      I don't really know what you mean by that. Principles aren't protected by the constitution, rights are.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb @christianjbdev

      The constitution is an American legal thing. The principle of free speech is a liberal concept.

      4 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    8. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      BTW, are y'all not American? Why even concern yourself if you aren't.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb @christianjbdev

      No, I'm English. Christian is Irish. Why would our concern for liberalism be limited to our own countries?

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    10. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @HPluckrose @christianjbdev

      I don't try and educate you about British government.

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      Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
      Replying to @blahandblahandb

      I have not once mentioned your government. I am talking abt the principle of free speech.

      12:24 PM - 6 Mar 2017
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        2. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          and I am talking about my government. I likely agree with you on free speech principles but that doesn't change constitution.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @blahandblahandb

          Why are you talking about your government? How is it relevant here? It wasn't the government that interfered with the speech.

          3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
        4. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          I would have to sit down and discuss American history and it's intersection with free speech. Not saying you don't understand.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @blahandblahandb

          .@JoshuaBHayes1 Not relevant. Liberal principles of free speech are not culturally relative. I'm arguing for them as do many Americans.

          2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
        6. Josh Hayes‏ @blahandblahandb 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          but that doesn't change a thing. One, the laws are written as they are and I am not British, lol.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @blahandblahandb

          You're clearly only going to talk about what laws are and not address ethics, values or principles so might as well leave it.

          2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
        8. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          So often, ppl insist 1st amend. is all that matters at same time as admitting it doesn't apply to subject under discussion! @JoshuaBHayes1

          4 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
        9. Helen Pluckrose‏ @HPluckrose 6 Mar 2017
          Replying to @HPluckrose

          Let's talk abt the illiberalism of disrupting speakers. You must refer to the constitution! What does it say abt this? Nothing at all. 😵

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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